The Netherlands Is Letting People Get Sick to Beat Coronavirus
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As most of the world practices social distancing, the Dutch are trying a different strategy to protect the vulnerable from the coronavirus: They’re aiming for so-called “herd immunity,” or what happens when enough people have survived the illness to effectively slow its spread.
“As we wait for a vaccine or medicine, we can slow down the virus spreading and at the same time build up herd immunity in a controlled manner,” Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said last week during an update on COVID-19, the contagious respiratory illness caused by the coronvirus.
Like a lot of other world leaders, Rutte is now in the business of calming his citizens down. But he’s also a pragmatist.
“The reality is also that in the coming period a large part of the population will be infected with the virus," he added.
So unlike the Italians or the French, the Dutch are not on lockdown. Schools and restaurants have been told to close, but strict social distancing hasn’t been imposed. People are still hanging out in parks. Even the coffee shops that sell weed are open, though now only for to-go orders.
The owner of one coffee shop in Tilburg, who goes by his nickname Meuk, told VICE News that in times like these, establishments like his are vital because they help people keep calm. But Meuk is still taking precautions.
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  • VICE News
    VICE News

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    • Tony Toon 同
      Tony Toon 同

      Vice: the most reliable media source you can quote from SNAPCHAT lmao, gtfoh

    • Tung Nguyen T2
      Tung Nguyen T2

      We already know that a Wu Han lab’s doctor was testing it and accidentally infected herself. No more theory please.

    • lofalta -meir
      lofalta -meir

      FAKE NEWS ALERT!!!!

    • dave gonzo
      dave gonzo

      This is stupid and misleading information. I am dutch and I can tell you these images are not from the last couple of weeks. We are in partial lockdown. Groups of more than 3 are prohibited. Parks are empty and people stay at home as much as possible. Yes, our PM wants group immunity but still keeping social distance so we can protect the elder and vulnerable people. It's a long shot, our government and PM are not perfect.we all know that, but we're still better off than having Donald Trump for a leader.....

    • Zbriu
      Zbriu

      Don't watch anything in this channel. It's all sensationalism. This video is complete BS and most likely other videos in this channel are no different. While the Dutch Prime Minister is kind of the European Donald Trump, i don't think they would just suicide. Dutch Prime Minister only talks BS but this video is no different.

  • Luis Fernando Godoy
    Luis Fernando Godoy

    Very interesting view about this particular issue from The Plague by Albert Camus kgsofts.info/hd/video/qoSRhtiIZIG1yGw

  • Emil Sosnin
    Emil Sosnin

    Netherlands: Only the weak will die

  • A J
    A J

    THERE IS NO EVIDENCE YOU WILL BE IMMUNE AFTER GETTING THE VIRUS!!!!!!!

  • La Capo
    La Capo

    What about part part how they invented COVID-19 to STOP global PROTESTS that started in December of 2018 in FRENCH, then Beijing then Iran, then Spain with Catalonia and whole 2019 was spread by millions and millions of people who wanted new way in sistem then to be a slaves to one... All around world people was unhappy by leading force and they stop it by media and some silly virus... Ty, have a great day

  • Dana Osadchaya
    Dana Osadchaya

    Much better to give people a choice to brace for infection if they go out and be prepared for it than to enforce an absolute mandatory lockdown and not expect mental health of entire populations to suffer

  • emily
    emily

    Primary health care I.e. gps in the Netherlands are hopeless. They recommend paracetamol for almost all ailments and they do all they can to deter you from seeking advice from a specialist. The Dutch love to save money and it should be noted that when compared to Belgium or Germany, their death rate for cancer patients is much higher.

  • trinaija
    trinaija

    Also if someone can which thats how viruses work be reinfected by a mutated strand and if people are all contracting the same strands or slightly different strands of the virus

  • F150_s550
    F150_s550

    USA needs to do this for immunity towards "covid19" lmao

  • André Simplício
    André Simplício

    How come this is not “population cleaning”, sponsored by the government? They are literally letting people die.

  • Sanderus
    Sanderus

    The Netherlands is tiny and they already have 20 thousand cases and over 2 thousand deaths.

    • Edwin Suijkerbuijk
      Edwin Suijkerbuijk

      Here in the Netherlands you only get tested if you have symptoms that are so bad that you have to visit a hospital so those 20.000 are only the people that had symptoms that where so bad that they visited a hospital. Some larger scale testing has been done in communities where we know the virus has caused some of these serious cases and this shows that 80% of cases tend to be mild and never went to hospital and got tested, so where not counted in the 20.000 number of positive tests. If the 20.000 positive tests are severe cases and 80% of cases is mild the more realistic number is that we are around the 100.000 cases now with 2000 deaths. meaning a 2% death rate among infected people considerably lower then the 3.4 % death rate estimated by the WHO

  • Keith Tolk
    Keith Tolk

    I am reading a lot of people making their own conclusions. I am living in the Netherlands and think I could explain better. The idea of this herd immunity is, yes to have 60% of people to get the virus. They are aiming especially at younger, supposedly fit people. You will never know for sure how resilient you are until you get it, but trying to protect the ones that are weaker for sure. By trying to have people distancing themselves, the virus should spread slower than when everyone would just go on with life as usual. By doing this, hospitals can manage the number of dangerous cases and slightly control it. This way less people should die from the virus.

  • Malleus Maleficarum
    Malleus Maleficarum

    *What do you expect from an immoral country which allows the euthanasia to depressed minors, a pedophile political party, the legalized sexual exploitation of young foreign women and which is the European hub for drug trafficking and money laundering?*

  • Jim Cummings
    Jim Cummings

    so 60% get a virus w up to a 10% mortality rate? 60% of the netherlands is a lot of dead people after all,

    • Edwin Suijkerbuijk
      Edwin Suijkerbuijk

      If you have a 10% mortality rate something is seriously wrong. Fortunately the death rate here in the Netherlands seems to be a lot lower.

  • Jim Cummings
    Jim Cummings

    now they refer to us as the "herd", like we're cattle, says a lot about how they see us, no one calls it widespread immunity,

  • Goldie C
    Goldie C

    Disgusting, R.I.P

  • Fotis
    Fotis

    Herd immunity is a lie and you will pay the price for your ignorance. In fact keep smoking weed it will keep you happy until the end

  • AutoPartsCo.eu
    AutoPartsCo.eu

    What if 90% of that herd will die because hospitals will be overwhelmed with sick patients and it will go out of control? Shepherds or the sheep?

    • Edwin Suijkerbuijk
      Edwin Suijkerbuijk

      That is why we have the social distending and not gather in crowds rules in place to slow the spread to a point where our IC capacity does not et overwhelmed. Actually today we has the turn around point there are now less being being moved to IC units then that are leaving IC units.

  • VNDL
    VNDL

    Misleading... expected better from you guys :(

  • Boss Ricketts
    Boss Ricketts

    Dutch people get it

  • Faigornx
    Faigornx

    Title of this video is so dumb...

  • _S K Y ツ
    _S K Y ツ

    Dutch people: Misleading title: English people: WTF IS THIS FOR STRATEGY Me: so so is it 🌶MEME TIME🌶

  • Carmen Kunz
    Carmen Kunz

    if you want to be taken seriously as a journalist you shouldn't post these lies. this is complete bullshit and wtf has the coffee shops to do with the virus?

  • Alban Sadiki
    Alban Sadiki

    Sick society

    • Faigornx
      Faigornx

      Why?

  • p-y
    p-y

    No we don't this docu is wrong

  • Teringventje
    Teringventje

    Woah letting people get sick? I didnt know that Vice? While i am living in the Netherlands. You sure you sent the intern covering this story to the right country? Garbage quality journalism, smh...

  • Fred
    Fred

    World except China = 175 cases per million. Netherlands = 950 cases per million. QED.

  • Rick Jordon
    Rick Jordon

    the question you have to ask the halfwits in government is how many of their own family are they willing to sacrifice for the cause!!!!....its stupidity like this, is why people feel the dutch suffer from a superiority complex.

    • Edwin Suijkerbuijk
      Edwin Suijkerbuijk

      well Today we did have a turning point there are now less people moved into Ic units then that are leaving IC units.

  • Inevitable Decay
    Inevitable Decay

    Legal weed would be nice though.

  • OhPlease a
    OhPlease a

    Sight, and again misleading information. No were not letting people get sick. As in many countries we have our fair share of stupidity. That does not mean we want to infect intentionally. The ICU capacity in the netherlands is one of the lowest of the most richest countries. That is why we need social distancing, to slow the spread of the disease. But than again we cant expect much from american media as they are so extremely bad compared to european counterparts.

  • Nithin Dhamodaran
    Nithin Dhamodaran

    I don't blame the Dutch, ton of weed and truffles damaged their brains. Germans don't simply call them "käsekopf".

    • j r
      j r

      Well at least we dont use the streets too shit on. We actually have toilets unlike a country that calls itself a superpower whilst millions of people defecate in public out in the open.

  • Cesar T
    Cesar T

    Coronavirus has proven many things: first, wealthy and developed countries don’t translate to smart society. As humans, who cares about each other as a healthy society and also where the morons live... 😅

  • Frank Garrett
    Frank Garrett

    Well we need to lock down everything forever, until we get a cure. Sound better!?

  • junglie
    junglie

    You DO NOT get immunity, uk govt pushed this lie too do not belive it some people have had it more than once.Every time it damages lungs & body more.This is thinly diguised nazi eugenics.

  • junglie
    junglie

    Same as the uk's policy, right wing govt in charge there too.....

  • Trudy Colborne
    Trudy Colborne

    The science of this herd immunity has proven that this virus is too easily transmitted and recovery is too lengthy for it not to result in a health care collapse. I feel bad that it looks like no one listened to Italy.

    • Trudy Colborne
      Trudy Colborne

      @Edwin Suijkerbuijk That's good news but it's too soon for that to be a cause to celebrate. More rough days ahead.

    • Edwin Suijkerbuijk
      Edwin Suijkerbuijk

      well actually today we had a milestone in the Netherlands We now have less patients coming in needing to go to IC units then that are leaving IC units.

  • deeleecharm
    deeleecharm

    Common Sense he should be wearing gloves changing gloves every time he turns around to go to these Foods is in Airborne so if he has a virus when he's big never test it and he's breathing on the food people are going to get sick people eat your own food at home do your own cooking be aware of it stay in your own area stay indoors this is not safe practices whatsoever this is my opinion but of course everybody has their opinion about what they feel is clean and not it makes no sense you get somebody in the background doing your food they could be coughing on your food and then give it to you this is not safe practices I'm going to put a thumbs down on this

  • Vernon Brown
    Vernon Brown

    Another country's mistake "let's see what happens" we do eventually have to get to normal life, but forget economics and politics. Their model is similar to Canada, but the aim is to not make everyone immune, the aim is to decrease Canadian deaths, innocent lives that's aren't ready. This model helps keep the strain on the health care down and treat people that are showing heavy symptoms - get them quarantined + also isolate all people that have the general symptoms and or have traveled domestically or internationally. There's a huge chance a second wave of a stronger virus, I really don't know increasing more people (%'s) to be out there, just keep it essential and mitigate lives to survive! Where the Netherlands #'s are approaching now?.. You're due to change you model NOW and drastically because it going to start showing in the deaths and a surge in cases. It only works so long until it becomes overwhelming. Netherlands it's time to lockdown now! Don't wait and watch

  • JC Korn
    JC Korn

    So the west has gone from ignoring asymptomatic infections to ignoring people being reinfected by this. End times, folks.

    • p-y
      p-y

      This video is really misleading the netherlands is in lockdown

  • Wordsmith Typesalot
    Wordsmith Typesalot

    The covid-19 mortality rate is currently at 3.45 out of 100. Given the Dutch population is 17.5 million, that's a maximum death toll of 600.000. It is a lot, but not as high to be putting the future existence of the Dutch nation at risk. They'll survive.

  • Sol Cutta
    Sol Cutta

    Its surely going to fare well for a country of stoners

  • anooph123
    anooph123

    Looks like the whole country is on Weed.

  • Ruchi Vriesekoop
    Ruchi Vriesekoop

    kgsofts.info/hd/video/poWwbNNjpZKdz6c this is what gouda looks like during Corona virus

  • Paul Freedman
    Paul Freedman

    Misleading title. I live in Netherlands, What we have is an intelligent lockdown. We have more freedom, but are expected to use it wisely. If we ignore the rules set during the pandemic, we can get fined up to 4,000 euro. In essence we are instructed to stay home as much as possible, social distancing, no more than 2 people close together etc etc. But we are free to choose our moment to go out and do our necessary things without the police constantly checking people. In other words, the Government trusts it knows it's people well enough that in the end, enough people will abide the new rules that the spread can be curbed. To be honest in my opinion, with no way of knowing when a vaccine will be widely available, until then the goal of group immunity is the only way to beat a virus with the least deaths, how unintuitive that might seem. With a lockdown (and provided enough people stay at home) one could beat the virus but that leaves many people still vulnerable and as long as there's no vaccine the chance of a second outbreak is quite high. It only takes ONE infected person to reboot the whole catastrophe.

  • Google User
    Google User

    Look at all that devil's lettuce

  • the Vegetable Chef
    the Vegetable Chef

    @Vice news, this video and title is totally misleading. The Netherlands are in a lockdown for the most part. Please stop misleading people!

  • Pieter107
    Pieter107

    This video is very misleading. The Dutch policy is mostly driven by two factors: science and intensive care capacity. The PM and the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment set out the policy and whilst doing this closely check whether there is enough intensive care capacity. Currently, the total capacity amounts to 2400 IC beds of which currently 1324 beds are taken. At this moment the number of people taken to intensive care is becoming less. Apart from that, the fact remains that the Netherlands is mostly in lockdown. People are staying at home. Cafe's, bars and restaurants are closed. If people go outside to hang out together they get a fine. Nursing houses are closed. Nobody can go in and nobody can go out. Whether intelligent lockdown will work in the end? I have no clue. I am not a virologist or anything related. I just listen to Jaap van Distel, the head of the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment and a professor. But let's not jump to conclusions. We can only determine whether the English, Swedish, Italian, American, South Korean or Dutch strategy has worked or not after the virus has been eradicated entirely.

  • krismeful
    krismeful

    This is what Norway is doing. They have left it up to the individual stores if they want to close or not and some stores are limiting the amount of people they let in. All types of medical care like physical therapy, dental, and psychiatric are closed and most doctors are doing video consultations. They encourage social distancing and if the police see people in groups larger than 5, they will ask them to separate, but honestly, you could walk down the street and not know anything was going on unless you really paid attention.

  • Bri Farr
    Bri Farr

    if too many people get sick at once then hospitals will not cope and even more people will die from lack of treatment

  • silentstellarechos
    silentstellarechos

    Isn’t this kind of stupid if the reports of people being reinfected in China are true? Not only this but also the fact it can leave you with permanent lung damage if you survive it.

  • Heidi Ho
    Heidi Ho

    You CANNOT build an immunity! You can contract it AGAIN. The virus mutates quickly and effects the RNA. THIS IS NOT A NORMAL FLU. Look to Taiwan and Korea for how to handle this.

  • Badaboom 88
    Badaboom 88

    Wel done Minister President Rutte now the world thinks The Netherlands/Holland is crazy. Anyway like Every Country in the world we are run by a bunch of Idiots.

  • thundavolt
    thundavolt

    Essentially every country is doing this they are just not calling it that. The lockdowns are in place just to slow down the rate the critically ill need care in the hospitals. This video was kind of a waste of time.

  • Holly Lynn
    Holly Lynn

    Watch the video b4 making a stupid comment.

  • James Stimpson
    James Stimpson

    Surely the whole world needs to agree to do this!? I kind of agree that without a vaccine it’s the only way forward but many will die.

  • Wim M
    Wim M

    Okay, this is a recipe for joining the Extinct ethnic groups. Goodbye 🇳🇱

  • Paulo G
    Paulo G

    "we have no idea!", but 1% dead out of 60% infected is a huge toll! But still "we have no idea!" As long as it isn't "us" we can dispense them.

  • Iman Amatullah
    Iman Amatullah

    Finally a country who has a brain! Yes, natural herd immunity IS the answer, NOT a toxic vaccine, or suicidal economic shutdown!

  • Maidenize666
    Maidenize666

    Google Did the same for Pixel 4 😪

  • mark12345680
    mark12345680

    The Dutch's healthcare system is far from great. The country is really small, hospitals are not equipped with enough beds for the covid19 patients

    • Gertjan Brinkers
      Gertjan Brinkers

      The proper spelling is 'Dutch' not 'Dutch's'

  • Mike Giron
    Mike Giron

    Next week: Who were the people of the Netherlands? This documentary will tell you who they were.

  • Dmytro Klopp
    Dmytro Klopp

    "you dont want panic"

  • Sidharth Linga
    Sidharth Linga

    The virus just might evolve/mutate to kill all humans and animals

  • PG trojka
    PG trojka

    So that's why the numbers in The Netherlands are so bad.

  • Gertjan Brinkers
    Gertjan Brinkers

    “While we may not be at war in a traditional sense, neither are we truly at peace. … Perhaps more so than in the recent past, we require commanders with the judgment, maturity, and leadership composure under pressure to understand the ramifications of their actions within that larger dynamic strategic context,” Modly said.

  • Roos Smit
    Roos Smit

    This video is not relevant anymore, the government shut down everything pretty quickly after this video was posted. I don't even think it was the intention to let everyone get sick. As soon as the Prime minister said Herd immunity people started to get worried and nobody understood what he meant. The Netherlands is basically in complete lockdown right now. Everything is closed except for supermarkets and everyone has to stay inside. Maybe look at Sweden, over there everything is still open, even restaurants and stuff.

  • k2
    k2

    These clickbait videos are getting unreal. So sick of it

  • K V
    K V

    If you look at this logically you have to ask your self, do you think this virus will go away by trying to run away from it? When will it ever be safe to come out of hiding and resume life when all it takes is for one sickie to start the whole mess over again. Then what, back into hiding for another XX months?

    • Frank Garrett
      Frank Garrett

      Exactly. You can't keep shutting down and creating more debt out of thin air to pay people to sit on their asses in their homes.

  • Alex Anderson
    Alex Anderson

    1. you cant vaccinate against a virus 2. scientists are still trying to work on a vaccine for HIV (Human immunodeficiency virus) which proves my first point 3. Herd immunity is the only option 4. Charles Darwin - survival of the fittest. You you dont look after your health a virus will look after it for you.

  • Sahar Varona
    Sahar Varona

    i think Herd Immunity is how SARS suddenly disappeared...am I wrong? educate me

    • Tere Reyes
      Tere Reyes

      nope

  • Peter Habets
    Peter Habets

    Fake news!

  • Tom
    Tom

    Massive mistake they are going to lose a lot of people

  • TheGreekGeeks
    TheGreekGeeks

    So let's sacrifice old people and people with chronic health problems. That's not a solution for the virus. It's an economy solution so you won't have to pay them anymore.

    • Gertjan Brinkers
      Gertjan Brinkers

      Also the state will receive death duties/inheritance/estate taxes, that's a double win then !

  • Gertjan Brinkers
    Gertjan Brinkers

    Typical case of foreign journa-coalitionists

  • Gertjan Brinkers
    Gertjan Brinkers

    Fptp The grass roots are okay

  • SARA
    SARA

    Good chance to get rid of the old who drain tax money

  • Frédéric AUDRIN
    Frédéric AUDRIN

    I have been in the Netherlands for 3 years and many Dutch told me healthcare is not good here compare to neighbour countries. The NL choose to do like the UK however they do send us text message to keep distancee it seems its working only 1k new cases per day, 1,6k dead and about 300 recovered from hospitals.

  • Claudio Marani
    Claudio Marani

    Your NAZI PM......against PORTUGAL.....SPAIN....FRANCE.....ITALY......GREECE..... SOON HE'LL REGRET.... YOU ARE A COUNTRY OF PARASITS......

  • ranjan bhandary
    ranjan bhandary

    When Vice News Lost its mind!

  • andrew bintang
    andrew bintang

    so the owner of that coffeeshop told you his name was "meuk"? lol XD

    • Gertjan Brinkers
      Gertjan Brinkers

      "I'm meuk have a peuk"

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